Of course, hardcore calvinists will say that we arminians lean towards works righteousness or universalism but, with wesley, i would affirm that double predestination turns the god of the bible into an unrecognizable tyrant the full text of the above sermon is available here. Get this from a library continuity and discontinuity : john wesley and george whitefield on the doctrines of election and predestination [james l fleetwood theological research exchange network. One whitefield warning to wesley was if you have any regard for the peace of the church, keep in your sermon on predestination this warning by whitefield was not the pauline warning of galatians 1:8-9 rather, it was the peace, peace when there is no peace of the great whore church of which both wesley and whitefield. Wesley and whitefield were able to reconcile to a certain extent, but the passionate and fiery debates left a mark on their relationship, and the methodist movement as a whole to this day, many see the predestination debate as an important dividing line in evangelicalism. John wesley and george whitefield view on the doctrine of election essay - introduction john wesley and george whitefield were two very influential men in the great awakening though the impact of both of these men was felt far and wide during the great awakening their view on the doctrine of election could not be more at odds.
Whitefield is supposed (before his death as justification for having him preach his funeral) to have said that welsey would be so close to the throne, and wesley supposedly said the same about whitefield after preaching his funeral and wishing his own death could be as as whitefield's. On whitefield's defense of the doctrine of predestination in his letters to john wesley the piece traces the interaction between these two pietistic revivalist preachers as they conversed about the controversial doctrine of god's election of believers. The division arose from the fact that whitefield and wesley did not share the same doctrinal development this arose from the fact that john wesley had at his conversion (in 1738) embraced evangelical views on sin, re-birth, and faith nevertheless, wesley had at the same time preserving his pre-conversion opinions centering on the doctrines of predestination and the degree of the atonement. An essay comparison of wesley and whitfield on grace and predestination reports that whitefield's dedicated attitude can partly be linked to his close friendships with american evangelicals led into a deeper comprehension of puritan theology and its significance to evangelism.
Wesley rejects such an understanding of divine freedom, and its expression in the doctrine of predestination/election, for three reasons: logically, it makes god the author of evil ethically, it makes meaningless the commands and demands of the scripture and theologically, it nullifies the biblical concept of human moral freedom. I've been reading a really good book john wesley's message today by lovett h weems, jr - and wesley made so many good points against predestination i just became curious as to which denominations do believe in this. Wesley, whitefield, a philadelphia quaker an, d slavery by irv brendlinger wesley and whitefield the two names are well known among those interested in the eighteenth century, theology, preaching, methodism.
The sermon arose out of the different points of view taken by whitefield and wesley on the question of predestination the former had come into contact with strong calvinistic opinion. Whitefield deferred to john wesley as his spiritual father in christ and his letters addressed wesley as honoured sir partnership: revival takes off in 1736 john wesley entrusted the newly ordained whitefield with the oversight of the oxford methodists, while he was away in georgia. This entry was posted in uncategorized and tagged arminian, calvinism, election, george whitefield, john wesley, lee gatiss, predestination post navigation ← talking to a fellow christian about his or her sin (welch. Whitefield believed the issue vital to robust christianity, and hastened to write from georgia in the american colonies, to his friend across the sea iain murray wrote: the occasion and background of [whitefield's letter to wesley] requires a few words of explanation.
Whitefield and wesley on grace and predestination by dave brown i introduction augustus strong once wrote that whitefield the calvinist, and not wesley the arminian, originated the great religious movement in which the methodist church was born. A letter from george whitefield to john wesley in answer to mr wesley's sermon entitled free grace but when peter was come to antioch, i withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed (gal 2:11. On june 25, 1739, whitefield addressed wesley directly, telling him that he had heard of wesley's intention to print a sermon against predestination it shocks me to think of it what will be the consequence but controversy.
Hood argues that with the controversy with john wesley becoming more intense and more public by mid-1739, whitefield simply had to consider his ground on predestination more carefully than he had before. George whitefield to john wesley: no, dear sir, you mistake a letter from george whitefield there are bigots b oth for predestination and against it god is. John wesley had preached and published against the teachings of george whitefield on predestination and total depravity wesley rejected whitefield's calvinist convictions and held that sinless perfection was obtainable in this life. A major disagreement was over whitefield's staunch position on predestination and the other disagreement between wesley and whitefield was over slavery.
Whitefield/wesley & predestination essay doctrine of predestination and election, which was held to by many believers in wesley's day he believed that this doctrine was a dangerous one and that it blasphemed the very person and nature of god. Wesley held strongly to arminian beliefs (emphasizing free will), while whitfield was a calvinist (emphasizing predestination) both men led countless thousands to faith in christ, but they were at odds theologically. Thomas kidd george whitefield, principled calvinist 1: froward from my mother's womb february 16, 2015 at the outset of the anglican baptismal liturgy, an eighteenth-century rector would say dearly beloved, for as much as all men are conceived and born in sin .